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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby YukiKitsune » Thu May 10, 2012 7:51 pm

Maybe airob gave the power to someone else then?

Did mort say if he got a confirmation if his milk was sent out?
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Cereal Killer » Fri May 11, 2012 12:45 am

Alright so I finally finished reading, assessing and whatever and here are my thoughts. Looks like we have a little under a week left. I know it's tl;dr but if you're gonna read anything, read the enlarged text starting paragraph.

I'll get straight to the biggest point that hasn't been brought up yet. Every character that's died so far had been a character physically present in clock town in the game. There are also 4 sides to the town, thus I conclude likely 4 clock town guards (two of which are dead.)

With that in mind, I think we can pretty much say with some safety that Kit is the Rosa sisters and not the Gorman brothers, likely making her a townie. It would also explain her picking the Kamaro mask, (it would likely be the Rosa Sisters true mask) why I'm not positive was actually an accident. I also don't think it's a lie that the mask would do nothing, it does nothing in the game, haha. As for the Stone Mask, I'd like to actually know if that does anything. I figure it would be useful for the town to know, and if it doesn't why doesn't it do anything? Being invisible in game could easily translate to some sort of power in mafia.

I would also like to note that Kafei was a member killed and I know it was brought up at some point, but that might indicate that Anju is a potential role in the game.

I think it's fairly conclusive that the bomb shop is the mafia murderer, otherwise the bombings would make no sense. I think it being Sakon is far-fetched, though I could see him being in the game as mafia.

Another issue of this would be, what role in clock town would give out milk? I can't think of one, and I don't think it's weird or too much to ask for mort to reveal what his role's name is, after all, the powers are whats important.

I think we can also agree that autumn killed Nyvelion and Walker, so we've probably only got one kill tonight.

Now the most disturbing thing about all of this is honestly the fact that we're on day 3. Why is this so bad? The skull kid isn't dead. Now I think it would be incredibly awkward if the skull kid was actually not in this game. And do we remember what happens at the end of the third day? The moon fucking kills everyone. Now I'm not saying that this is necessarily his power, but if people are dying from bombs, I wouldn't hesitate to say that the skull kid actually gets an automatic win if he survives night 3. Now my guess is if there's a power this broke, it belongs to a neutral faction. Also the skull kid never works with the bomb shop owner or astronomer in the game, so it wouldn't be strange to have him be an entirely different faction. What this basically means is that we need to make sure we get this s*** right today, because it might be the last day. Now some of you are gonna oppose me when I say this, but it's time to role claim now. It honestly doesn't even matter what your power is at this point, it matters what your name is. So people get to claiming, please.

Anyone have suspicions? I kind of like Mort for Skull Kid and Freaky and/or airob for mafia. I think Kit is the most innocent at the moment. I also think Wes is pretty innocent, my only doubt being that Morgan who died fingered him as suspicious and has been right about everything he claimed in this game. It also wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for me to see Headphone or Mute as mafia, but my guess would be that if Headphone was mafia, he would have better planned this. Rand and Clean rub me as slightly pro-town, but I wouldn't dismiss either of them.

Likely roles included:
1 Clock Town Guards
1 Bomb Shop Owner (mafia affiliated)
1 Skull Kid (likely mafia affiliated, but could be neutral)
1 Anju
1 Milk Giver, Maybe?
1 Sakon, Maybe? (likely mafia affiliated)
This is 7 of the remaining 9 players, 8 of 10 if you count kit, so anyone have a clue what the other roles are? (I'm looking at you kit :P)

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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Mr--Clean » Fri May 11, 2012 1:07 am

for the most part it seams to pretty much make sense. A couple of things though
I wouldnt rule out other non clock town characters in this game. After all you thinking there is a skull kid and dont think he is clock town
what do you mean roux was the one killing? I highly doubt that unless you think it was her mask doing it. her role ability was the 2 votes.

Seams as good a time as any to role claim anju. With morgan dead its a little tough to prove it though I can copy/paste the description although that might not be a good idea. Anyways it might explain to some of you why it looked like we were teaming up together.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Mort_Kawasaki » Fri May 11, 2012 1:58 am

win condition

I kind of like Mort for Skull Kid

If I would be the skull kid, and my win condition was to survive until day 3, I certainly would've stayed low a whole lot more...
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby freakyaliendude » Fri May 11, 2012 3:59 am

Alright, I have a few minutes to sit down and type stuff out.

First of all:

Mort_Kawasaki wrote:win condition

I kind of like Mort for Skull Kid

If I would be the skull kid, and my win condition was to survive until day 3, I certainly would've stayed low a whole lot more...


I think you are the skull kid. I do NOT think that day 3 has anything to do with your win condition. (I'm not convinced of that, I just don't believe it does or you wouldn't have been so vocal about being 3rd party on day 1)

I don't, however, believe you when you posted your win condition. I absolutely will confirm the Milk you gave me as being received and "as advertised" (Thanks, by the way). I hold to what I said most recently regarding you.....I don't trust your win condition and think you need to go, HOWEVER. At this moment you are much more of a bane to the Mafia than a danger to the town, so I will not vote for you for now.

@NerdBoy:
I voted you to pressure you into speaking out about it. I'm not saying I believe you, or that I believe Airob. I was the second person to vote you (I think, at least....without going back to look). 2 votes is in no way being in danger of being voted off. I've had two on me (Thanks to Kit) for most of this day. As people have said, Airob has acted kinda suspicious.....but I think you have too. Clean hit on some serious points, although he was a bit ridiculous on some others. I don't trust him either. (Note: I don't trust anyone, this is Mafia).

As for your persistent questioning of me about my previous statement....I was going to point the finger at someone who, with recent events, has become unlikely to be Mafia. I'll stave off anything else for now. I think we have a couple likely suspects, and wish to continue on with them.

@CK:
First of all for saying I was suspicious because I was being nice:
That's just about as stupid as voting for someone for eating carrots. I don't mind having suspicion cast on me, it's part of the game.....but make it for a real reason. I'm sure there is SOMETHING I've said that you can twist around into something suspicious (Just like you can for everyone else.)

Secondly, you bring up multiple points that I will (Help to) confirm later in my post. Some others I will disprove.
First: I think the moon is a big deal in this Mafia game. You'll see why here in a second. The fact that I believe the moon is a big deal is the only reason I don't dismiss completely that Mort (aka the Skull Kid) is up to something on Day 3.
Secondly (of the second point): I also support the idea that we're in Clock.
Thirdly, and I only feel safe to do this because of Mort's Milk....I will role claim. Copy/pasty from Glen's PM:

Welcome to Majora's Mask Mafia, Freaky. You are Mayor Dotour, and you are quite perplexed as to what to do about that looming moon.

You are a Townie Mayor. You have the following special abilities:

Active Abilities:
Evacuate - You have given the order to flee in order to distance your subjects from certain disaster. The preparations and travel take all day, causing an immediate no lynch and beginning the night phase. This is a Rapid Action and therefore resolves immediately upon receipt.

True Mask: Your true mask is the Stone Mask.

Win Condition (Town): You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.



I don't expect this to change the minds of people who believe I'm suspicious, but I think confirming (or at least lending more evidence to) a lot of what CK said is going to help a lot. And I'm safe from the Mafia for at least one night. :lol:


Also in case you didn't pick it up, this is why I think the moon is a big deal: " and you are quite perplexed as to what to do about that looming moon."

Make of that what you will. It could be Glen just making the game feel more like MM, or it could be a hint.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby nerd-boy » Fri May 11, 2012 9:26 am

freakyaliendude wrote:@NerdBoy:
I voted you to pressure you into speaking out about it. I'm not saying I believe you, or that I believe Airob. I was the second person to vote you (I think, at least....without going back to look). 2 votes is in no way being in danger of being voted off. I've had two on me (Thanks to Kit) for most of this day. As people have said, Airob has acted kinda suspicious.....but I think you have too. Clean hit on some serious points, although he was a bit ridiculous on some others. I don't trust him either. (Note: I don't trust anyone, this is Mafia).


Well you got your answers. Hopefully they are enough to make you less suspicious of me. I haven't had any special abilities all game, role-wise, mask-wise, or granted, except the Sun's Mask/Moon's Mask thing that wasn't really very useful.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby randomizer » Fri May 11, 2012 12:21 pm

CK, I think you're on the right track with some of that, but please try not to directly list roles and place people in them. This is something that was said before you joined; this version was chosen by Glen because it is designed to confuse and defeat mass public role claims. Some of what we have on Kit is good because it is derived from direct observation of her abilities - the having two masks and two votes and whatnot. But mostly everything else is not truly confirmable - we don't really know which roles are in this game and there are too many possible roles to rule things out in advance. Do you conclude that someone is lying/mafia should you find, for example, there's no Sakon but 5 people claiming to be guards? or someone claims to be Kamaro or anything else not on your list? I know you have two slots to fill, but it's just too easy to be led astray. And if there was such a paradox, there are already people you'd be more suspicious of than others. That is going to continue to be true as the game wears on without the risk of inviting people to claim false innocence, as opposed to putting out a list of roles you consider to be safe from suspicion.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby randomizer » Fri May 11, 2012 12:49 pm

Mr--Clean wrote:what do you mean roux was the one killing? I highly doubt that unless you think it was her mask doing it. her role ability was the 2 votes.

It directly states that Autumn was the townie vigilante in the topic's opening post. I'd have to guess the mask gave her the extra votes, but as she was labeled 'Protagonist' in the post announcing her death, there's no way to be sure at all.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby YukiKitsune » Fri May 11, 2012 4:57 pm

alright i looked over everything quick

first off i am indeed the rosa sisters. im two people wearing two masks and getting two votes. the stone mask does what it does in game, makes me unnoticeable, or in this case, unable to be targeted. which is the exact reason i took a gamble with that mask. :3

ive already said before mort could be the skull kid and linked a wiki page that listed the skull kid as a mischief maker, which goes exactly with his role. the reason i wanted to asked to see morts win condition again is for the same reason ck mentioned, that were on day 3, the final day before the moon falls.

and i think i mentioned before that autumn was doing the second kills
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby funwes » Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 pm

This is probably as good of time as ever to say that I've never played Majora's Mask :|

I've said it before, but here's my PM:

Welcome to Majora's Mask Mafia, Wes. You are a Clock Town Guard, a simple yet loyal defender of the town. Your preparations for the Festival of Time have turned into something far more dire, and the town needs your help!

You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities.

Win Condition (Town): You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby freakyaliendude » Fri May 11, 2012 10:23 pm

I posted my role because I had a couple people thinking I was suspicious. Hopefully I put some water on your fire there with that.....that said, I don't think we should be overly suspicious of people who DON'T claim. We don't want the investigator being forced to reveal....and lying about their role would be too easy to be discovered, making them a target for the town.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Mr--Clean » Fri May 11, 2012 11:15 pm

Well freaky if if what everything you says is true and if you are sure about your suspicions about the moon and the skull kid it sounds to me you should call in your ability being day 3 and all. Are you allowed to do that ability as often as you like or is it a one shot deal thing?

Also random you make a good point concerning roux. I did not think of that.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby YukiKitsune » Fri May 11, 2012 11:19 pm

freakys ability doesnt look like it does anything other than force a no lynch
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Mr--Clean » Fri May 11, 2012 11:24 pm

sounds to me like it stops all night actions, but if thats the case then yeah maybe thats not such a good idea.
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Re: Majora's Mask Mafia Day 3

Postby Mort_Kawasaki » Sat May 12, 2012 1:57 am

Welcome to Majora's Mask Mafia, Mort. You are Romani, the mischievous young girl who helps run the ranch that shares your name. You get that there's some sort of trouble happening, but it's a bit above your head. You just want to have fun!
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