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Postby Sothis » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:01 pm

psycho guy wrote:http://awbw.amarriner.com/game.php?games_id=121547
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Geez that game was brutal. A perfect showcase of why Sturm can't be ignored when making ban lists. :shock:
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Postby psycho guy » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:16 pm

The fact that my capture phase was bad didn't help either lol
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Postby excrimophalus 1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:27 pm

Sothis wrote:Geez that game was brutal. A perfect showcase of why Sturm can't be ignored when making ban lists. :shock:


Sturm is absolutely nasty on that map, more so than i expected when i picked him. Probably broken.

If someone tried to stop a capture of the northernmost tower by sturm, it would totally screw up one's capture phase.

Actually, it seems simple, but i think it is often taken for granted that javier with 1T has to first get the tower before he gets his stats upgrade, unlike other cos who have a built in d2d. This could be a real problem for javier on maps with contested towers, such as this one.

Imo Sturm > javier 1T
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Postby Sothis » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:25 am

Except the towers are not contested on that map. Unless you're Sturm.

You're right that Sturm is better on maps where he's broken due to his movement. Of course!

But Javier1T is significantly better otherwise for many reasons. Basic stats are better, powers are better and much more frequent, and 2HKO ability is better.
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Postby EchelonThree » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:56 am

Sothis wrote:Except the towers are not contested on that map. Unless you're Sturm.

You're right that Sturm is better on maps where he's broken due to his movement. Of course!

But Javier1T is significantly better otherwise for many reasons. Basic stats are better, powers are better and much more frequent, and 2HKO ability is better.


Jav only becomes good when he gets his tower, if a tower can be contested in the way it was in that game, Jav is as good as lost.

That, and the fact of lol sturm.

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Postby psycho guy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:54 am

Sturm actually isn't a problem on that map imo

I should've gotten airport like two days earlier but I didn't because I'm a little rusty on my capture phases (actually on day one I sent infantry up then realized I should've sent it down immediately after I moved).

Basically all that harassment would've been stopped easily under normal circumstances.



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Postby Ultra Storm » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:09 am

Sturm is probably the best top tier CO overall and is often worth banning. Even without heavily abusing perfect movement, he can usually wall you for infinity and flatten you with meteors.
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Postby Knukp » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:30 am

I'm in.
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Postby Falkenwing » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:55 am

Damn the images are down again and I can't see the maps :x
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Postby Walker » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:11 am



Yeah that's game over... walkerboh loses to psycho guy
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Postby excrimophalus 1 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:58 pm

Sothis wrote:Basic stats are better


True, but not much. On almost all maps, by the time you factor in terrain bonuses, id take sturms d2d.

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Postby psycho guy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:35 pm

challenge mrapex and Cassowary on Dizziness

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Postby Cassowary » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:44 pm

Sorry, but I'm going to refuse your challenge for now. I already have too many games going for me at the moment, and I've got three already going in this ladder that I'm defending in.

Just challenge me when I beat one of the defenders. Or, perhaps, I'll accept this when I beat one of my challengers.

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Postby mrapex » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:06 pm

hoho, want to be beaten again psycho?


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Postby psycho guy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:10 pm

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